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Old 25-09-2007, 21:49
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conniston vs windemere.

So there was a petitoin to government:-

"Please remove the 10 mph speed limit on Lake Windermere. Since the introduction in March 2005 lake users have no where to go to water ski. Lots of families are losing out on enjoying the fun. All the local businesses are losing out and even the Lake District National park is now having to review funding options for the lake due to the restriction."

Then there was a repsonse
The power to make local byelaws covering Lake Windermere rests with the Lake District National Park Authority. The Secretary of State's role is to confirm (or decline to confirm) any such byelaws submitted to him for approval. Once the Secretary of State has come to a decision on a particular set of byelaws he has no further role in the matter. Furthermore, in view of his confirmation role, it would be inappropriate for the Secretary of State to speculate or comment on what his decision might be should byelaws be submitted to him for approval.

Further Information??

Moving the event to Windermere
Some members of the Coniston Lake User Group
expressed an opinion that Records Week is more
suited to Windermere, and that the organisers or
another party could apply to Authority for an
exemption to the Windermere byelaws. Authority
members would need to agree to apply for an
exemption and apply to Defra for an amendment to
the Windermere Navigation Byelaws. Where there
were irreconcilable objections to the amendment, the
Secretary of State would call a Public Inquiry. The
Lake User Group agreed that this could be a lengthy
process, and that they would support Records Week
if there were no alternative venue to Coniston in the
meantime.

Great job mate, if you cant be arsed, you can take a back seat or sometimes you can meddle with stuff. If you want to.
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Old 26-09-2007, 22:17
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Re: conniston vs windemere.

I'm afraid the Secretary of State cannot be arsed me'ludd.
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Old 27-09-2007, 03:16
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Re: conniston vs windemere.

Can any one tell me,

Were there irreconcilable objections to the by law ammendments (speed limit) ?

Did the secatary of state hold a public enquiry to these?

If there were irreconcilable objections noted and not respected has the secatary of state not failed to follow procedure and therefore the new bylaws, unlawful.
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Re: conniston vs windemere.

the public enquiry did discus records week and it was recommended that it continued on Windermere and that an exception should be allowed (to my knowledge this has been ignored completely

from the enquiry conclusions (everyone should read these at defra site)

9.215 In the light of all of the above factors, and bearing in mind such matters as national prestige and the past history of record-breaking attempts on Windermere, it is in my judgment appropriate to contemplate allowing a specific exception to the proposed general speed limit on this lake in order to allow the Records Week event to continue. I appreciate that such a recommendation would not be to everyone’s liking, in particular those who would like the lake to be quiet at all times. However, on balance it seems to me to be a reasonable exception to allow.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:43
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Re: conniston vs windemere.

I went off and found the whole thing:--

http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-cou...de/windermere/

Seems there is room to challenge.

Inquiry admints it is not possible to see the impact of local commerce. Which according to locals has been taken an noticable downward turn as previously mentioned.

So local community have a chance to reflcect that.

Racing community mentioned but not really considered.
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:09
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Re: conniston vs windemere.

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it is in my judgment appropriate to contemplate allowing a specific exception to the proposed general speed limit on this lake in order to allow the Records Week event to continue
so a bit like they manage to do at Coniston then.....

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I appreciate that such a recommendation would not be to everyone’s liking, in particular those who would like the lake to be quiet at all times.
...... so its been spoilt for the majority by the selfish minority
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:02
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Re: conniston vs windemere.

Off to Coniston this morning! Never did records week at Windemere, so as it's my first nothing to compare it to I'm afraid.
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Old 04-11-2007, 13:02
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Re: conniston vs windemere.

Undern the Environment Act 1995 Section 61 restated the twin purposes of National Parks as:

a) conserving and enhancing [their] natural beauty, wildlife and cultural heritage; and
b) promoting opportunities for the understanding and enjoyment of [their] special qualities by the public.

Although the LDNPAis expected to give greater weight to the first.

The LDNPAare also required to "seek to foster the economic and social well-being of [their] local communities."

I'm pretty sure there constition would cover this too.


Connistion is OK but they would rather we went back to Windemere too. Its a bit like Exel and Earls court, to me.
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Re: conniston vs windemere.

Unlike Cookie I only did my "runs" at Windermere years - 82, 88, 95, 01 and 02

I should have gone to Coniston this year to watch , I was up that way but decided home was a better place than an hotel room.

The speed record week guys have done a fine job to find a new place.

Lets support them!
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I was up that way but decided home was a better place than an hotel room.
No support needed that day then.
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Re: conniston vs windemere.

it appears that the LDNPA are seeking to amend the bylaws ,
no mention of allowing records week on Windermere as recommended by the public enquiry.
has anyone asked them to do this ? did they get a reply?
also I found a new web site for keep windermere Alive http://www.kwaa.org.uk/ worth a visi to show your support.
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